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Peter, Peter, SBC Calvinist Eater, Attempted an Argument, But Couldn’t Keep Her…

He put her in a straw-man suit, and there he kept her very cute…


 

Peter Lumpkins is against Southern Baptist Calvinists leading a certain number (that he will not name) of SBC leadership positions.  This is his reasoning for making the above video.

1. First, whether or not 90-95% (this percentage cannot be proven) of Southern Baptists are or are not Calvinists does NOT matter.  In order for Lumpkins’ argument to carry any weight, he must prove that these 90-95% care that some Calvinists are leading them.  Instead, he makes a straw-man argument, assuming that since 90-95% are not Calvinists, that they too do not want Calvinists leading them.  He has NO proof to validate his argument.

Furthermore, the statement “90-95% of Southern Baptists are not Calvinists” is not a true statement.  When asked “Is this a verifiable statement?”  Peter writes, “No, the 90-95% is a deduction–a reasonable one I think–from what we presently know of the SBC.”  Well Peter, shouldn’t you at least attempt to prove your grandiose statements?  This is why I think Peter’s main issue with SBC Calvinism is personal.  He is trying to stir others up in the convention because he has a personal issue with SBC Calvinism being affirmed by too many (some arbitrary number in his mind) in SBC leadership.

A study carried out by Lifeway back in 2006 found that out of 413 Southern Baptist pastors surveyed, only 10% were 5-point Calvinists.  At least based on this study in 2006, Lumpkins seems correct; but, what about 4-point Calvinists? 

In 2007, NAMB released a New Millennium Ministers Study.  All 1998-2004 Masters level seminary graduates from Golden Gate, New Orleans, Midwestern, Southeastern, Southwestern and the Canadian Southern Baptist Seminary were invited to complete the survey late 2006. The total number of usable surveys was 2,134.  A limited subset of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary graduates was available for the study.  Lumpkins has argued that “Calvinists have an entire seminary” due to Southern’s faculty having to sign the Abstract of Principles.  Due to the limited number that were able to participate in this study, Lumpkins cannot argue that Southern’s graduates skewed the numbers…

By seminary: Golden Gate (N=270), New Orleans (N=287), Midwestern (N=148), Southeastern (N=403), Southwestern (N=978), Canadian Southern Baptist Seminary (N=11), Southern Seminary (N=52).

1,234 of these 2,134 respondents served as pastors or staff members at Southern Baptist churches as well. Within this group, 527 served as a senior or solo pastor of a congregation. 

Out of 2,134 Southern Baptist Seminary graduates surveyed…

-27% identified themselves as 5-point Calvinists.  This seems to take some validity away from Lumpkins’ grandiose statement above; but, this was not what startled me (the stats I’m about to mention will bug Lumpkins; and others that see Calvinism as a threat). 

- 67% affirmed that “God’s grace is irresistible.” 

- 58% affirmed, “People do not choose to become Christians; God chooses and calls people who then respond to Him.”  These previous stats mean that near 60% of seminary graduates are 4-point Calvinists. 

-The study also found that those who graduated in 2004 were 13% more likely to be 5-point Calvinists than those that graduated in 1998. 

-Furthermore, those who graduated in 2004 were 12% more likely to affirm that God’s grace is irresistible than those that graduated in 1998. 

Finally, one of the study’s conclusions was that “church growth statistics in terms of annual baptism rates indicates that there is little difference between Calvinist (8.8 per 100 in attendance) and non-Calvinist (9.4 per 100 in attendance) led churches.”

2. Second, I am the student that said, “Southern’s faculty is so vocal about Calvinism that a non-Calvinist would feel “out of place” since Calvinism is universally taught as truth.”  What I meant is that Calvinism is taught as normal at the seminary, since the entire faculty at least affirms 4-point Calvinism.  Whenever I attended my first class at Southern, I was not a Calvinist.  I had however been leaning that way for several years.  I felt “out of place” in my first couple of classes because Calvinism was taught as truth, not as “it might be true.”  Since the professors universally affirmed it, they universally taught it as truth as well.  The difference however is that Limited atonement is not universally held.  Dr. Mohler is a 5-pointer, Dr. Moore is a 4-pointer/ Dr. Wright is a 5-pointer, Dr. Ware is a 4.5 pointer (You gotta know Ware).  Even though I felt out of place because I believed differently than my professors and many of the students, I was amazed at the godliness and evangelistic passion of my professors.  Some of the godliest men I have ever interacted with in Southern Baptist life are professors at Southern.  Dr. Ware’s “Doctrine of God” class was the first class I took at Southern.  His passion for God’s glory in all areas of life was and is contagious!

3. Third, Lumpkins statement “Southern Baptists have historically insisted that the Bible alone is our standard for truth; not Calvinism, not Arminianism, not any human-creed or system,” is not an accurate statement.  Historically, Baptists have been a confessional people.  Here are some Baptist confessions, just to name a few…The London Baptist Confession of 1644, Midland Association Confession of 1655, Second London Confession of 1689, The Goatyard Confession of 1729, Philadelphia Confession of 1742, Sandy Creek Confession of 1816, Terms of Union of 1801, New Hampshire Confession of Faith of 1833, and The Baptist Faith and Message of 1925, 1963, 2000.  What Lumpkins fails to realize is that every time someone reads the Bible, they interpret or “confess” specific truths.  Confessions simply communicate what we as a people believe the correct interpretation of Scripture is and is not.  So, whenever a confession says what the Bible says, where it speaks, God speaks!  However, where a confession does not say what the Bible says, it must be discarded.  The Scriptures have always been the final authority in Baptist life, and are today in Southern Baptist life as well; however, confessions have also been a part of Southern Baptist life, and should be today as well! 

4. Finally, concerning whether or not Southern Baptists can handle the truth, I say, “Yes, they can!”  The truth is that Calvinism is NOT a threat to Southern Baptist life.  Contrary to what Peter is arguing, Calvinists are not taking over the SBC.  There is room for both groups.  Why can’t the gospel be our emphasis, instead of winning others to our theological systems?  Since these Calvinist leaders are soul-winners and Southern Baptists, why shouldn’t they represent all of us?  Peter, why must there only be some arbitrary number of Calvinist Southern Baptist leaders?  Why does it matter?  Why can’t you view these men as simply Southern Baptists that are leading us?

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Pastor Gets Punched in the Face

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The only question I have is, “Where are the deacons?”  :) .  They should be jumping in front of their pastor, taking that punch like a champ :) .

Maybe it was a deacon that tackled the guy?

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How to Defeat SBC Calvinism

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I thought this video was funny.  At the very least, let us preach the text in front of us, unto God’s glory alone.

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9 Reasons Why the SBC is In Trouble IF Calvinism is a Threat

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Whenever I say “Calvinism” in this article, I mean a 4 or 5-point Calvinist; a person that affirms all 5-points of the T.U.L.I.P. or affirms all points except Limited Atonement.

Southern Baptists are in trouble if Calvinism is a threat to the SBC because…

1. Southern Seminary, the first and largest Southern Baptist Seminary, has an entire faculty that affirms Calvinism.  All Southern faculty must sign the Abstract of Principles, which at least affirms 4-points of Calvinism, leaving out limited atonement.  I’m currently attending Southern.  I took Dr. Ware’s Doctrine of God class as my first course for my M.Div.  Calvinism is necessarily discussed in this class due to God’s sovereignty being one of His essential attributes.  Since I was not a Calvinist at the time, I felt out of place in the class since I had never heard Calvinism discussed in such detail.  I felt like the only non-Calvinist in the class.  This class however was my favorite class I took at Southern throughout my M.Div. due to it increasing my knowledge of God and my love for God.  The discussion of Calvinism will vary from course to course depending on the subject matter.  It’s not a hostile environment at all, but since Calvinism is universally affirmed by the seminary, it is universally taught as truth.  Just as other Southern Baptists do not shy away from teaching truth, Southern Seminary does not shy away from teaching Calvinism.

2. Al Mohler, the intellectual spokesman for Southern Baptists, is a 5-point Calvinist.

3. Danny Akin, the president of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, is a Calvinist.

4. The young movers and shakers in Southern Baptist life are all Calvinists: Matt Chandler, David Platt, J.D. Greear, Russell Moore, Ed Stetzer, Adam Dooley, Jeff Noblit, Voddie Baucham, etc.

5. Johnny Hunt, a former poster-child for anti-Calvinism darts in the SBC, has repented of His previous statements toward Calvinists (His emphasis, not mine).  He no longer sees Calvinism as a threat to the SBC; and he is vocal about it.  Learn from him.

6. According to a Study by Lifeway and NAMB in 2006 and 2007, seminary graduates from Southern Baptist seminaries that are now serving in Southern Baptist churches are nearly 30% more likely to be Calvinists when compared to the rest of the convention.  Thus, Calvinism is on the rise in the SBC.

7. The young, hip, cool evangelicals; and some of the most-popular Christian authors today are Calvinists: Mark Driscoll, Justin Taylor, John Piper, John Macarthur, R.C. Sproul, Francis Chan, D.A. Carson, Tim Keller, J.I. Packer, David Powlison, etc.  Calvinism is currently cool and intellectual as well, a dangerous combination for influencing the evangelical youth of tomorrow.

8. Kevin Ezell, the new President of the North American Mission Board, is a Calvinist.  If Calvinism is a threat to missions, then we’ve just greatly hindered Southern Baptist evangelism in North America by electing a Calvinist to this position.  This of course is a straw-man argument since Calvinism does not destroy evangelism.  Ezell is an example for all to follow.

9. Thom Rainer, the President of Lifeway Christian Resources, is a Calvinist.  If Calvinism is a threat to evangelism, why elect a Calvinist to lead arguably our most influential resource beyond the Bible for ministry in the local church?

Like it or not, Calvinism is here to stay in the SBC.  It actually never left; but was merely the extreme minority position.  This however is not the case today; and will not be the case in 10 years.  If you are against Calvinism in the SBC, I want you to know that whenever we outnumber you, which is inevitable, we will show you more kindness than you have shown us.  There is room for both groups in the SBC, as long as the gospel is faithfully preached and taught!

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The Evangelical Draft – Round 1 With Commentary And Highlights

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Draft Results for Round 1:

Pick #:

1. The Happy Clappys took Bill Gaither.

2. The Positive Smiling Mullets took Joel Osteen.

3. The Cooler Than U took Mark Driscoll.

4. With organ music playing in the background, the Heretics took T.D. Jakes.

5. The Janet Renos took Joyce Meyer.

6. The Crazy Charismatics took Benny Hinn.

7. The Relative Revelators took Henry Blackaby.

8. The Culturally Submissive took Rick Warren.

9. The Has Beens Conservatives took Billy Graham.

10. The Doctrinally Ignorant took Glenn Beck.

Highlights and Commentary on the First Round:

1.  Bill Gaither came running up on stage, but fell, and yet the Happy Clappys sang joyfully until he stood up again.  It’s strange however that his leg is still broken in two places. 

2.  Joel Osteen gave a brief speech about how blah, blah, blah, blah.  The Positive Smiling Mullets smiled, bought all his books, and opened up their check books.

3.  Mark Driscoll came up on stage and unfortunately had a seizure, falling to the ground.  The weird thing was that the entire Cooler Than U team fell down and mimicked Driscoll.  Update: Driscoll is fine.  He simply got dehydrated from being too busy.

4.  T.D. Jakes came to the stage dressed like an Evangelical, only to be forced by the Heretics to change into their uniform. 

5.  Joyce Meyer was heckled as she walked to the stage by a man from the Cooler Than U team only to have her and the rest of the Janet Renos beat him senseless. 

6.  Benny Hinn came up on stage singing, when suddenly he started waving his coat around and “zapping” people until Driscoll “came to” for a moment and drop-kicked him.  Hinn is strangely suing Driscoll for half of all that Hinn owns?

7.  When his name was announced, Henry Blackaby did not move, but rather silently prayed until he saw where God was working.  He is still sitting in his chair at this moment. 

8.  Rick Warren ran up on stage, but inconveniently fell into a vat of chemicals.  He will be the joker in Batman 4 in 2014.

9.  Whenever the Happy Clappys realized that Billy Graham had been drafted by the Has Beens Conservatives, they almost lost the name of their team because they tried to violently take him back by force. 

10.  Glenn Beck was unable to be at the draft due to speaking at the commencement of Liberty University; or he was with Paige Patterson.  That Beck is a busy man.

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