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Not so sure about your list.
Kevin Ezell, in a recent interview said,
It also seems to me that Danny Akin is at least tentative on “L”. So, don’t think he can be classified as a Calvinist. He himself wrote,
The article is located here: http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/16/myth-5-the-gcr-is-actually-a-grand-calvinist-plot-to-infiltrate-the-sbc-and-gain-control-or-at-least-greater-influence-in-the-convention/
Ken,
I appreciate your comments. In the beginning of this article, I mentioned that by Calvinist, I meant 4 or 5 point Calvinists. Ezell and Akin are both 4-point Calvinists. Mohler attended Ezell’s church before he moved to be the president of NAMB. If the 4-point Calvinists are removed from this list, then there are many that would need to be removed; however, I consider 4-point Calvinists still Calvinists. Bruce Ware for example is a 4-point Calvinist; as is Russell Moore (I think).
If you don’t classify these 4-point Calvinists as Calvinists, then what are they? More than half of Southern Baptists disgree with the 4-pointers as well.
Jared,
Thanks for your interesting article. I’m reading through the lense of non-Calvinist convictions. I’m just wondering … did you get permission from these men to refer to them as Calvinist and “all” profs at SBTS?
Blessings, Ron
Ron,
I appreciate your question, but I find it odd. No, I did not get permission from these men. The Abstract of Principles that every professor has to affirm, teaches at least 4-point Calvinism. So, every professor is at least a 4-point Calvinist at Southern.
If a 4-point Calvinist is still a Calvinist, then all of the above men are Calvinists; however, if you must be a 5-point Calvinist to be a Calvinist, I don’t know what to call some of the above men.
The main point I’m arguing in favor of is not Calvinism (although I’m a 4-pointer), but is rather the fact that Calvinism is not a threat to the SBC. God’s sovereignty in salvation actually undergirds evangelism and fuels its fire. We have nothing to fear from biblical Calvinism.
I’m hoping that we all can just get along for the sake of the gospel. We should still discuss our differences in hopes of lining up behind the truth; however, we should still be able to serve together.
Calvinism will end up destroying the SBC. Especially this new strain of arrogant Calvinism which makes no attempts to coexist in harmony with opposing viewpoints (and no, Arminianism isn’t the only alternative).
The problem with the whole article is making a distinction between a 4 point and a 5 point Calvinist. If you take away any of the points the whole Calvinist argument crumbles. This argument is just one of the many problems with Calvinism. I have yet to meet a moderate Calvinist who did not revert to a five point Calvinist when backed into a corner. Saying that one is a 4 point Calvinist is merely a smoke screen, as evidenced by the inseparable alliance of 4 and 5 point Calvinist.
David, I know numerous Calvinists that are 4 point Calvinists. When they’re “backed into a corner,” they don’t “revert to 5 point Calvinism.” You seem to be stereotyping all Calvinists. Back me into a corner, and I’ll appeal to the Scriptures. I don’t see how the exegetical evidence can prove Limited Atonement.
Wes,
once again, history does NOT back you up. Current Calvinism does NOT back you up. Where are you getting your info? As a Calvinist, I’m begging Southern Baptists to accept me… I’m not the one rejecting them, I’m the one being rejected. Even you in your comment reject me.
How have I been arrogant? I believe Calvinism to be true; but, the gospel is the emphasis, not Calvinism.
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I’m surprised you mentioned Adam Dooley.
If Adam Dooley is a Calvinist, then Barak Obama is deeply concerned with the debt issue.
He may have it in his soteriology, but I would guess it’s not filled out in visible ways in his ministry. For example, I don’t see it in his approach to preaching or ministry. But on the other hand, nor do I see it in Rick Warren who claims to be a Calvinist.
I guess you can claim to be Calvinist and not really resemble the “traditional” look and approach to ministry that is synonymous with those guys historically.
-John C in Southern Maryland
John,
Dooley is a 4-point Calvinist. I cannot speak to his methodology; but, there seems to be a wide spectrum between various Calvinists concerning what methodology can flow from the doctrines of grace.
Thanks for the shout back Jared.
Best to you,
John C in Southern Maryland
Hi Jared,
I just wanted to let you know that if you think it’s hard to be accepted as a Calvinist in Kentucky, you should try being one in Canada.
Cheers,
Chris, really? What theological system is popular in Canadian evangelicalism?
Thanks for this article. Since God turned me to more Calvinistic doctrine I have faced more opposition then I could have ever imaged. I never thought this would be such a problem. I’ve even talked to elders in the faith and instead of helping me through the Scriptures they want to argue like I’m the enemy. It’s time everyone had this attitude towards this debate and we turn our focus again to the Gospel.